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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:42 pm
by JL
Thanks. Interesting envelope
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:32 pm
by juandesooka
I was clicking around this site, found something interesting. Click on any site, then check out the wind forecast on right side of page:
http://localkitespots.com/kitesurfing/BC
What's interesting is their "Boost" rating:
http://localkitespots.com/boost.htm
They explain the math, probably what MortonMike did for his calculation. The Boost is a percent, multiply it by the windspeed for a temperature adjusted reading. In other words:
Wind speed x (1 + Boost%) = DreadKnot (DKt)
Science!
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:41 pm
by windaddiction
Are kites flying high enough to get a boost due to the fact they maybe out of the ground level turbalnce? There is a wind gradiant when you get higher up. I know when I used to race sail boats , my instructors would lose thier minds unles your sail was at the very top of the mast, saying there is more wind speed the higher you go.
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:52 pm
by duckbill
I hope it gets windy soon I'm actually reading this stuff.
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:58 pm
by mortontoemike
I'm trying to work in the orientation of the Nitrogen molecules into the calculation. If they hit the sail end on there is less cross sectional area than if they strike the sail side on ... hmmmm ...
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:52 pm
by abetanzo
I second the height of a sailboat's main helps.... the bigger boats with height and sail area totally generate their own speed in the light stuff!
with kites the maneuverability would create even more pull in colder air....
although I did hear if you're racing at Nitinat keep the kite low! but I can understand that would generate more pressure on the fins etc to drive you up wind more...
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:04 am
by windaddiction
So what is the practicle limit to line lenghts?
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:09 am
by JL
1. Launch area 2. line drag 3. As the line length increases the kite feels less responsive BUT the sining creates a massive power stroke. Try flying a kite @ different heights each session & you will find the wind changes from surface to the peak of the arc. Some times the surface has more.
Some times the wind is better 'up top' 4. Take lines off a bar & double your lines on another