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     Bobson Thursday July 21, 2005
    Squamish, Windsurfing
    This Year: 149
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 13, 2004
    Total Records: 917
    This Year: 149

    Thursday July 21, 2005 Squamish, Windsurfing
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     Squamish, Windsurfing W 10 - 20
    choppr
    1.50 hours Starboard Formula 156 litres
    Severne Overdrive 10.0
    Went out sailing for an hour and a half between races. Nicely powered on the 10.0m as I was coming back to the beach the race past me going upwind at Mach 1....'OUT OF THE WAY ROOKIE' is all I heard....HA!! :D
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     Windsurfish Thursday July 21, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 6
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    Log Started:
    Saturday January 22, 2005
    Total Records: 1145
    This Year: 6

    Thursday July 21, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing SW 16 - 22
    small chop, 1.5' swell
    2.00 hours Starboard Carve 111
    Sailworks Retro 6.0
    :D Sounded & looked like a great day, so I spent some of the sailable time riggng sails & setting up camp. Winds died early, and it got stinky hot. Still managed a few hours of sailing, but it was a good day to enjoy the fine summer weather. Visited with George & family at the campfire, and threw lots of sticks for the dog..... :)
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     The Gman Thursday July 21, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Saturday May 21, 2005
    Total Records: 36
    This Year: 0

    Thursday July 21, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing W 22 - 26
    3.50 hours JP Wave 84L
    Ezzy Wave SE 5.2
    Nothing quite like coming round the corner and seeing white...Rigged up and raced Patch up to the island on the 5.2/84L. Sweet first day. After 5 Hot, Hot, Hot. Beer, Beer, Beer. Then sleeping on the board bag on the beach listening to Mb snore in the trees behind us.
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     mortontoemike Thursday July 21, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Saturday March 12, 2005
    Total Records: 209
    This Year: 0

    Thursday July 21, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing SW 16 - 20
    chop, light swell
    4.00 hours Starboard Carve 121
    Starboard Kombat 95 L
    North Sails XXX 6.2 m^2
    Got up at 8 and the sky was already clear and blue everywhere. It’s already getting hot. The inflow started at about 10. Looks like it’s going to build slowly. On the water at 1pm on the Carve 121 and XXX 6.2. George and I headed upwind past the river and did about an hour and a half of reaches. Sweet riding. Headed down to the campground at about 2:30 and hopped on the Kombat until 4:30 when the wind started to wane. By 5 pm the wind had died and we were off the water. It was sweltering hot. ... (more)
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     Patches Thursday July 21, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Thursday June 9, 2005
    Total Records: 48
    This Year: 0

    Thursday July 21, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing WNW 22 - 26
    2-3
    3.50 hours Starboard Carve 80
    Ezzy SE Wave 5.2
    Always nice to come around the corner and see white. Sailed with Gman from 1 until 4:30. Classic Nitinat. Raced up to the island. Managed to make it there first and on the small board to boot. Shut down like a switch had been thrown at 4:30 and got friggin' hot. Nothing a few wobblies couldn't cure though.
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     KUS Thursday July 21, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 58
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    Log Started:
    Sunday October 17, 2004
    Total Records: 1820
    This Year: 58

    Thursday July 21, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing W 20 - 24
    small waves, odd ramp
    1.50 hours Starboard Free 87 87L
    BIC Blast 62 110L
    Sailworks Retro 6.0
    Gaastra Grind 5.4
    B & J fin 11-13"
    wave fin 9-11"
    Ibuprofen, Robaxacet, Codein 600mg bombs
    Finally a shortboard day again, nice but a bit underpower with 5.4. Lo on energy, packing up big stuff when switching down. Made a few heli's, elbows & shoulders whining for drugs,

    Sail 6-7 Wave 4 Jump 4

    Kitemare at upper beach apparently. Rescued 3 kites and kite boards during my stay, Day 5 and I've had enough of flat water. Super weather, 44th annual sesh 2 more than ever b4, nice! Excellent road conditions out made for nice trip home 8)
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     winddoctor Thursday July 21, 2005
    Florence, Windsurfing
    This Year: 77
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    Log Started:
    Sunday August 22, 2004
    Total Records: 1315
    This Year: 77

    Thursday July 21, 2005 Florence, Windsurfing
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     Florence, Windsurfing NW 15 - 23
    Head high waves
    2.00 hours Naish Wave Hybrid 85 7'0"
    Ezzy Wave SE 5.8
    Late start to the wind. Light inside section, very windy outside. Rode the Naish. Very snappy cutback, good jumper.

    Older sailor died today at Florence. Cause of death uncertain. Spooky.
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     KC7777 Thursday July 21, 2005
    Harrison Lake (Rivtow), Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Wednesday July 28, 2004
    Total Records: 257
    This Year: 0

    Thursday July 21, 2005 Harrison Lake (Rivtow), Windsurfing
     Thursday July 21, 2005 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Harrison Lake (Rivtow), Windsurfing SW 15 - 17
    flattish
    2.50 hours JP FreeRace (Wood) 142L
    Ezzy Infinity 8.5
    Mellow...big board...big sail...warm....good couple of hours ripping in nice scenery.
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     Mattdog Thursday July 21, 2005
    Lantzville, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Friday September 10, 2004
    Total Records: 211
    This Year: 0

    Thursday July 21, 2005 Lantzville, Kitesurfing
     Thursday July 21, 2005 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Lantzville, Kitesurfing NNW 13 - 18
    chop
    1.50 hours Hana Crew 135x40
    Windwing Rapture 12
    Mellow session off sandy beach at very low tide. First attept of back spins and landed two or three :D
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     Windsurfish Wednesday July 20, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 6
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    Log Started:
    Saturday January 22, 2005
    Total Records: 1145
    This Year: 6

    Wednesday July 20, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing SW 20 - 25
    chop, 2' swell
    5.00 hours Starboard Carve 111
    Sailworks Retro 6.0
    :) Classic Nitinaht, with lots of steady winds. Not quite as lumpy as Monday, but with 5+ hours on the water, who's complaining. Left gear with MB and drove out to get camping stuff etc..... :D
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     mortontoemike Wednesday July 20, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Saturday March 12, 2005
    Total Records: 209
    This Year: 0

    Wednesday July 20, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing SW 20 - 25
    chop, small swell
    6.00 hours Starboard Carve 121
    Starboard Kombat 95 L
    North Sails XXX 6.2 m^2
    Got up at 9. The sky is overcast everywhere. At about 10:30 it started to clear in the NE end of the lake. At noon the wind came up and by 12:30 I was on the water on my 121 and 6.2. At about 2 it cranked up a notch and I down hauled the 6.2 and headed out on the Kombat. Was overpowered at times but hung on for a lot of great rides. Am trying to get some jumps in off the swell. Switched back to the 121 at about 5:30 and got off the water at 6:50. What a day! The best I’ve had this year. TOW: 6 ... (more)
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     winddoctor Wednesday July 20, 2005
    Doug's, Windsurfing
    This Year: 77
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    Log Started:
    Sunday August 22, 2004
    Total Records: 1315
    This Year: 77

    Wednesday July 20, 2005 Doug's, Windsurfing
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     Doug's, Windsurfing W 20 - 30
    2-3'ramps
    3.00 hours Starboard Evo 74 7'6"
    Ezzy Wave SE 5.0
    Ahhh, nice warm water, fun ramps, good friends owning the place! Had some fun forwards, trev was shoving his way around the swells, Dave was hucking backs, and Mike was tossing forwards. Great day.
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     KUS Wednesday July 20, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 58
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    Log Started:
    Sunday October 17, 2004
    Total Records: 1820
    This Year: 58

    Wednesday July 20, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
     Wednesday July 20, 2005 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing W 16 - 22
    small Nat noddles
    2.50 hours BIC Blast 62 110L
    Sailworks Retro 6.0
    Ibuprofen, Robaxacet, Codein 600mg bombs
    B & J fin 11-13"
    Megaheli day, trying port ones, very close bunch of times but none yet :evil: 1 on 1 buoy racing, fun but tiring to hold form & making every gybe regardless of how pretty. Out again late but never did see rush hour despite humongous fog bank, coming up later every day :? Coulda been on 5 but too lazy. Getting bit bored now on Day 4, not very happy w/my sailing efforts either. Almost time to bail, bleeding blisters. :( Nice firenite

    Sail 7 Wave 4 Jump 2 Sunny & hot 8) Bought decent sparesail ... (more)
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     morewind Wednesday July 20, 2005
    Dougs Beach, WA, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Wednesday July 7, 2004
    Total Records: 294
    This Year: 0

    Wednesday July 20, 2005 Dougs Beach, WA, Windsurfing
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     Dougs Beach, WA, Windsurfing W 18 - 30
    swell
    3.00 hours RRD Cult 55 8'4", 83L
    Sailworks Revo 5.0m
    Gorge day 1. Big change from the coast. HOT and no shore break to get thru. Out with BWD, Winddoc, Dunkinguy. We owned the place. where is everyone? Hucked around 10-15 loop attempts. nearly sailed away from a couple. a couple of non-existent rotations too. Dunkinguy and Winddoc gave me some mentoring on the move. best setup I've had - head on 2-3 foot swell.
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     bwd Wednesday July 20, 2005
    Dougs Beach, WA, Windsurfing
    This Year: 66
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 6, 2004
    Total Records: 1126
    This Year: 66

    Wednesday July 20, 2005 Dougs Beach, WA, Windsurfing
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     Dougs Beach, WA, Windsurfing NW 20 - 25
    2-3ft
    3.00 hours Starboard Evo 70L 229cm
    Ezzy SE 4.5
    A great day at Dougs with Winddoc, Trev and Morewind. Wounds on hands are really sore now. Morewind hucking loops. Trevor hucked a HUGE one handed forward right in front of me. Wow. Tried lots of back loops, vulcans and some shove its. Light wind Thursday then the Hate starts again Friday...hopefully a Wall day.
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     TURTLE Wednesday July 20, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 27, 2004
    Total Records: 35
    This Year: 0

    Wednesday July 20, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing W 15 - 25
    flat and then some chop
    4.00 hours Electric Rock 102L
    Starboard Go 165
    Sailworks Retro 6.0
    Ezzy 5.2
    Wind started late today. It took a while to build to the 100L board wind. I was on my GO board until about 2:30pm and I had to leave Nitnat at 4 pm.
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     JL Wednesday July 20, 2005
    Gordons, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Thursday July 22, 2004
    Total Records: 999
    This Year: 0

    Wednesday July 20, 2005 Gordons, Kitesurfing
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     Gordons, Kitesurfing WNW 14 - 17
    4' swell on outside
    2.00 hours Ocean Rodeo Mako 150
    Ocean Rodeo Bronco 12 M
    Ocean Rodeo Bar w/'punch out'! small
    Soul session on the outside...many sweeet wave rides..1 reasonable jump! Jose practicing @ Tugwell....he needs a roll of tuct tape!
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     mortontoemike Tuesday July 19, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Saturday March 12, 2005
    Total Records: 209
    This Year: 0

    Tuesday July 19, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing SW 20 - 25
    chop, light swell
    5.50 hours Starboard Kombat 95 L
    Starboard Carve 121
    North Sails XXX 6.2 m^2
    The wind came up at 12:30pm. Went out on my Carve 121 and North 6.2 at about 1pm. It was a little gusty at times but the wind held in through most of the day. At about 3pm I switched over to the Kombat 95 for about an hour and a half then back to the 121. Got off the water at 6:40. TOW ~ 5.5 hrs. Phew! Had some nice campfire conversations with a family from Edmonton, then Azat and Perter. Drank too much wine and staggered to bed.
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     winddoctor Tuesday July 19, 2005
    Florence, Windsurfing
    This Year: 77
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    Log Started:
    Sunday August 22, 2004
    Total Records: 1315
    This Year: 77

    Tuesday July 19, 2005 Florence, Windsurfing
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     Florence, Windsurfing N 20 - 30
    Head high swell
    3.00 hours Naish Wave Hybrid 85 7'0"
    Ezzy Wave SE 5.0
    Rode the Naish 'cause it looked lighter. Wasn't. Still fun trying gouges, backloops, forwards, good times. Dave was getting some nice aerials. Great session, nice evening sky, looking forward to a cold beer and warm clothes when I realise I hid the wrong key to my truck. After a short freakout, Mike drove me into town and we called AAA. 15 min later we were back in bidness. Off to the Gorge!
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     KUS Tuesday July 19, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 58
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    Log Started:
    Sunday October 17, 2004
    Total Records: 1820
    This Year: 58

    Tuesday July 19, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing WSW 16 - 22
    flat Nat noddles
    2.50 hours BIC Blast 62 110L
    Gaastra Grind 5.4
    B & J fin 11-13"
    FOGGGG. Wind sailable 1130 til 6:30, taking it slower cuz I'm hurtin', Ibo's not cutting it. Megachop today for some reason, went out early and then again late. Weird fold tanlines on the ol' gut from reading :D . Drinking in the sun doesn't help you sailing, once again confirmed. Drag Racing with bud(d)s.

    Sail 5 Jump 4 Wave 3 Sunny and beer's cold 8) 8) 8) Tied my annual sailing days record..and it's July... wahoo!!

    No fire tonite, too windy again, early bedtime; the crowd and kiters are gone!
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     morewind Tuesday July 19, 2005
    Florence, OR, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Wednesday July 7, 2004
    Total Records: 294
    This Year: 0

    Tuesday July 19, 2005 Florence, OR, Windsurfing
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     Florence, OR, Windsurfing N 20 - 30
    head+ breaking waves
    3.00 hours RRD Cult 55 8'4", 83L
    Sailworks Revo 5.0m
    day 4 camped on the Jetty. Another day in wind/wave paradise. Another day of blowing sand, cool temps, and spray.

    More great riding. Hucked 2 loop attempts, got around completely on one. Got taken to the cleaners on the biggest set of the day.

    Day ended with Winddoc locking keys in car. A short hour later we had a AAA person on-site to get back in.

    Gorge time. Drove 4 hours and van camped at the secret pit in Hood River.
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     TURTLE Tuesday July 19, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 27, 2004
    Total Records: 35
    This Year: 0

    Tuesday July 19, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing W 20 - 25
    few bumpers
    4.00 hours Electric Rock 102L
    Sailworks Retro 6.0
    Ezzy 5.2
    Wind was going strong at 12:30 when we arrived
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     bwd Tuesday July 19, 2005
    Florence, OR, Windsurfing
    This Year: 66
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 6, 2004
    Total Records: 1126
    This Year: 66

    Tuesday July 19, 2005 Florence, OR, Windsurfing
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     Florence, OR, Windsurfing NW 20 - 30
    3-4ft
    2.50 hours Starboard Evo 70L 229cm
    Ezzy SE 4.5
    Smaller waves but a really fun session. Good rides and about 10 back loop attempts. Hands are really sore. Last day at Florence today and we all head back to Hood River. Lasted 8 days on the Jetty - sweet!
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     KC7777 Tuesday July 19, 2005
    Harrison Lake (Rivtow), Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Wednesday July 28, 2004
    Total Records: 257
    This Year: 0

    Tuesday July 19, 2005 Harrison Lake (Rivtow), Windsurfing
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     Harrison Lake (Rivtow), Windsurfing SW 15 - 18
    flat, boat chop
    2.50 hours JP FreeRace (Wood) 142L
    Ezzy Infinity 8.5
    On the water by 5:45pm, only 3 guys out. Steady 15+ and flat water, setting sun, shorty wetsuit, fresh water, perfect set up for the FreeRace and 8.5M. Back and forth racing with some guy on a Formula and 8.0M, everything was perfectly balanced and effortless, by 7:00 pm not many boats left on the lake and it became really really flat and fast, awesome for jibes. Came off the water at 8:15 pm. Sweet big gear session. :D
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     colin Tuesday July 19, 2005
    Cook Street, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Saturday October 30, 2004
    Total Records: 219
    This Year: 0

    Tuesday July 19, 2005 Cook Street, Kitesurfing
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     Cook Street, Kitesurfing SW 15 - 18
    chop
    1.70 hours underground 142
    surfboard vertigo 5'11"
    airush lift 14
    started out on my surfboard, i felt lucky to even get out there off shore. filled in eventually then came in for some short boarding. if you wanted to kite at night, tonight would be it, perfect wind and lots of moon light.
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     Joe Tuesday July 19, 2005
    Gordons, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 13, 2004
    Total Records: 340
    This Year: 0

    Tuesday July 19, 2005 Gordons, Kitesurfing
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     Gordons, Kitesurfing WNW 12 - 16
    flat, chop & swell
    1.20 hours Ocean Rodeo Mako 150cm
    Ocean Rodeo Bronco 14M
    Ocean Rodeo Punch-Out bar
    A light air session but still very nice. Got everything from chop to flat water to swell. Sunny and warm. Smooth, clean wind. :D
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     JL Tuesday July 19, 2005
    Gordons, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Thursday July 22, 2004
    Total Records: 999
    This Year: 0

    Tuesday July 19, 2005 Gordons, Kitesurfing
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     Gordons, Kitesurfing WNW 12 - 16
    variable
    1.40 hours Ocean Rodeo Mako 150
    Ocean Rodeo Bronco 12 M
    Ocean Rodeo Bar w/'punch out'! small
    Late session....Smoooooth sections with chop & swell @ times ! Mellow..
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     winddoctor Monday July 18, 2005
    Florence, Windsurfing
    This Year: 77
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    Log Started:
    Sunday August 22, 2004
    Total Records: 1315
    This Year: 77

    Monday July 18, 2005 Florence, Windsurfing
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     Florence, Windsurfing N 20 - 25
    Head high swell
    4.00 hours Starboard Evo 74 7'6"
    Ezzy Wave SE 5.0
    Another great day on the coast. Sand is in everything I own. Wish I could sail waves all of the time!
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     KUS Monday July 18, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 58
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    Log Started:
    Sunday October 17, 2004
    Total Records: 1820
    This Year: 58

    Monday July 18, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing WSW 20 - 30
    medium Nat noddles
    8.50 hours BIC Blast 62 110L
    Ibuprofen, Robaxacet, Codein 600mg bombs
    Naish Supercross 257 94L
    Gaastra Grind 5.4
    Sailworks Revo 4.8
    wave fin 9-11"
    B & J fin 11-13"
    Sailing marathon day @9:30 til late, Jamie & I out alone for over 1hr, nice build, Diver showed for late 4.8/short board sesh, sunny & hot, ate boom clew on a duck gybe without the duck :evil: didn't stain the sail tho, whew 8) several heli tacks, nice airs, early waves, late chop crap losing dental work, fish sales on beach, fire problematic w/ late wind til midnite, wicked day!!

    Sail 9-10 Jump 6 Wave 6 8) 8) 8)
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     Kite Kook Monday July 18, 2005
    Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 13, 2004
    Total Records: 202
    This Year: 0

    Monday July 18, 2005 Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing W 22 - 28
    typical nitinat
    2.00 hours Grant Macpherson Custom One of a kind 149
    Ocean Rodeo Bronco 9m
    classic 9m Nitinat - with loads of lift. Robbie Scott going huge on his 9 inspired me to try harder. Grant had an awesome session on his 8m. Wind was NOT smooth, but very challenging and gusty.Think we might splurge for the 8m and 10m for Baja given what I saw this weekend...
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