ALOHA BRAH!

[clownboy]

One day I was sailing at Doug's Beach at the Gorge. Before jibing I happened to look upwind and spotted a guy who looked like he was about to jibe. Sure enough he began a nice arc that ended up putting the nose of his board right through my window. If I hadn't spotted him and watched as he piled into me at full speed he would have hit me in the spine...a last second twist of my body saved me. I was uninjured but a tad freaked out by the encounter and I used the "F" word with the fellow asking how he could jibe right into me? We sailed ashore and I was fairly pissed off.... "you didn't even look, man". The guy was sorry and offered to have my sail fixed. I suddenly realized I was being a hothead and apologized. Fact is, I was more offended than anything else; some how my space and pride had been violated. No one was hurt, my window got fixed and all was well. Made a new friend. No big deal. So why get mad. It's was just stupid. But it did give me an opportunity to grow up a bit. It sounds like some individuals (even hawaiians I guess) could grow up a lot. So the guy was an idiot...so what? Have a beer or a toke or whatever you do and get over it.
This summer I looked and jibed only to have a guy come from out of nowhere and go wizzing past my tail pretty close yelling "Look before you jibe!" The tone of his voice indicated he wasn't pleased. I yelled "Sorry" and waved as we exited our turns. He smiled and we tore off across the lake. No big deal.

[Guest]

the first time i went to kook st. I got major attitute and left the island thinking that the kiters here suck...........after being there more i realized that it was just one asshole having a bad day BUT you can see how places get a rep.

[TURTLE]

I wasn't able to follow the initial link. Perhaps it has been taken down?

Turtle

[~ pimp hand ~]

I wasn't able to follow the initial link. Perhaps it has been taken down?

Turtle

the site must have pulled it ... i googled it and found it all over the place

[TURTLE]

Possible factors to consider...

1. Hawaii is a very small place (pressure on specific beaches)
2. Hawaii was colonized by whites as a result of political (underhanded) dealings of the Dole company to bribe a chief (of many?) to sign over Hawaii to the American Government.
3. Hawaiian (heretage) people (in general) are not profiting from the insane amounts of tourists who come to Hawaii. Many are servants of the tourist trade.
4. People who own large parts of Hawaii are not Hawaiian (and many do not live in Hawaii).
5. Colonialism... a factor?
6. Is the white guy is a tourist (surfer)?
7. Is this video about a backlash of 100s of years of domination?

I have read articles written by Hawaiian people telling tourists that they should stay home and leave our island alone. We don't want you or your money. The article stated it enslaves us, it does not help us. It was in a Kansai Time Out magazine about 4 years ago (published in Japan in English.).

I believe there is a lot going on in this video that this video does not address. It is more than just a couple of guys looking for the same wave.
Turtle

[TURTLE]

Oh, I found this link worked. Thanks Pimp Hand

http://www.bullshido.com/videos/Hawaiian_Beatdown.wmv

Turtle

[~ pimp hand ~]

Possible factors to consider...

1. Hawaii is a very small place (pressure on specific beaches)
2. Hawaii was colonized by whites as a result of political (underhanded) dealings of the Dole company to bribe a chief (of many?) to sign over Hawaii to the American Government.
3. Hawaiian (heretage) people (in general) are not profiting from the insane amounts of tourists who come to Hawaii. Many are servants of the tourist trade.
4. People who own large parts of Hawaii are not Hawaiian (and many do not live in Hawaii).
5. Colonialism... a factor?
6. Is the white guy is a tourist (surfer)?
7. Is this video about a backlash of 100s of years of domination?

I have read articles written by Hawaiian people telling tourists that they should stay home and leave our island alone. We don't want you or your money. The article stated it enslaves us, it does not help us. It was in a Kansai Time Out magazine about 4 years ago (published in Japan in English.).

I believe there is a lot going on in this video that this video does not address. It is more than just a couple of guys looking for the same wave.
Turtle

nice Turtle ... makes you think about the big picture eh

did you happen to see the lengthy discussions going on at the Star-Board website about this? http://www.star-board.com/forum/starbul ... 4111803615

[TURTLE]

Thanks for the link to the discussion.

I hadn't seen it the discussion you provided the link for until now. Thank-you for sending it. This particular post on that link regarding surfing in Hawaii hit home for me.
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Obviously, these two natives have trouble understanding anything at all. Should they be locked up? YEAH!!!! You always find this kind of people all over the globe, what strikes me wrong is the reaction of the people, that's fucked up.

Tom
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Without mentioning any names or places, lets hope this kind of power/capitalist struggle (aboriginal, colonial or foreign ownership) doesn't reach beaches we have come to know and love.

I like Dunkingguy's post. All we need is love!

Turtle.

[Hoser]

I've been a sufer for many years.You fuck with the locals and you get fucked up.Void JR cause kooks can't be locals when it's -1 and the wind is blowing 26knots .Yes windsurfers are going to be sailing and the wave are to shit to go surfing.Goddamm Kooks"locals".

[KUS]

I've been a sufer for many years.You fuck with the locals and you get fucked up.Void JR cause kooks can't be locals when it's -1 and the wind is blowing 26knots .Yes windsurfers are going to be sailing and the wave are to shit to go surfing.Goddamm Kooks"locals".

I think on that insightful note we can put some closure to this horribly gone wrong thread.... As I recall everyone is someone else's moron!