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Now you need to get them on a wave and see how they really work!
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I think Tony means you need to get to PSC, and I agree - it is an amazing place. I am going to buy my " ticket to ride" ( good discount) so that I have it in the bank for a trip next year.
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Yeah I just mean I probably wouldn't have noticed the difference between my fires and the quad had I not ridden them back to back in side off conditions. In bump and jump I think it's a lot harder to discern things other then straight line speed and overall feel. Slogging out a 4.3 in 20 knots then putting it on a glassy logo wave that generates its own wind to me was the telling test.
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can't wait for my quiver addition of the G4's

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nanmoo wrote:Yeah I just mean I probably wouldn't have noticed the difference between my fires and the quad had I not ridden them back to back in side off conditions. In bump and jump I think it's a lot harder to discern things other then straight line speed and overall feel. Slogging out a 4.3 in 20 knots then putting it on a glassy logo wave that generates its own wind to me was the telling test.
I can testify to the B&J credo of the QU4D, it has completely blown me away in every respect - AWESOME sails!
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Just curious are those battens tapered?
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nanmoo wrote:Slogging out a 4.3 in 20 knots then putting it on a glassy logo wave that generates its own wind to me was the telling test.
telling test of what though. these are conditions you get exactly never here at home. is this a specialty sail you use only on your holiday? i gotta question the logic.
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downwind dave wrote:
nanmoo wrote:Slogging out a 4.3 in 20 knots then putting it on a glassy logo wave that generates its own wind to me was the telling test.
telling test of what though. these are conditions you get exactly never here at home. is this a specialty sail you use only on your holiday? i gotta question the logic.
What I was thinking too .... :wink: .... though the QU4D is far from specialty sail IMO..
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Your right, totally wrong test for them. But when you fall in love rational thought is left behind. Now I've been pleasantly surprised to find out the work great here too. Lofty for jumps, more power and the pack up half as thin and fit in myt yak box way easier.
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looking at the sail pile in my garage- i can totally see the benefit of how small they roll up!
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And to make it more complicated, forget wavesailing, are these the perfect sails for lighter sailors in bump and jump conditions? At a mere 125 lbs. I feel all my gear is beefier than I really need and lighter is a blessing. They look pretty interesting for 5.8 and under for me, and maybe even the new 3 battens for 5.0 and down. Could be pretty nice.
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I am about 163# right now & really like the balance of soft/direct & the super lightweight & compact shape + great range. The new KS3 is supposed to have great range too but RADICALLY more direct & rigid in feel.
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I bore witness to the KS3 in Baja and it has more grunt and shape than the FL or QU4D, looks funny, and is a bit heavier in the construction since they were able to save weight by losing a batten. Basically like an on/off switch. QU4D is what you want for FUN!
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nanmoo wrote:I bore witness to the KS3 in Baja and it has more grunt and shape than the FL or QU4D, looks funny, and is a bit heavier in the construction since they were able to save weight by losing a batten. Basically like an on/off switch. QU4D is what you want for FUN!
Yeah will probably try one size of KS3 just for fun, but I am super stoked on QU4D's & plan to replace them with same this coming season.
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Post by winddoctor »

Loving the Firelight myself. Stupidly light, still very strong, stable for me at 200-205 lbs. Only had a quick OP'd run on Nanmoo's 5.2 set very full. Felt perfectly balanced on my 5.3 FL immediately after trying the 5.2 Qu4d, but mine was set with less fullness. Need more time on the Qu4d to tell if I like it. The KS3 looks like a kid's rig but if it sails as advertised, I bet I'd love it too. HSM is making some extra nice stuff these days!
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