Wingfoiling
- UnusuallyLargeRobin
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Agree with all being said for positioning and weighting. The one other consideration seems to be that the offset position is used more by those with very large foils (wingspan & area), to be able to "balance" the foil and actually get leverage for turning/trimming and to some extent the board widths being used. I think as you drop down to smaller you move to more centered. I'm slightly off center heelside by 1-2" at most on front foot (mostly due to V strap config), and maybe 1" to toeside on back foot to counter my front. Still, I have seen prone guys on the web with small foils and straps configured in big offset positions, probably comes down to just riding preference/feel for what works for you.
So in short Grant, it just takes time on the board/foil to figure out what positions work with what combinations, keep at it, it gets better and easier!
So in short Grant, it just takes time on the board/foil to figure out what positions work with what combinations, keep at it, it gets better and easier!
Me: 85kg(187lbs)
FoilBoards: Fanatic 5'0 SkyWing(75lt);
Wings:Duotone Unit 3.0,4.0,5.5m;
Foils:Axis HPS1050(1460cm2),PNG1150(1713cm2),HA1000(1310cm2); Rears 370,425p,Skinny365/55; Fuse: ultra, adv.crazy black; Mast:90cm 19mm Alu
FoilBoards: Fanatic 5'0 SkyWing(75lt);
Wings:Duotone Unit 3.0,4.0,5.5m;
Foils:Axis HPS1050(1460cm2),PNG1150(1713cm2),HA1000(1310cm2); Rears 370,425p,Skinny365/55; Fuse: ultra, adv.crazy black; Mast:90cm 19mm Alu
- MartyD
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Just like dropping in Juan you nailed it!
Had another amazing Norte day yesterday! My longest rides by far. Swell was 6-8' and rolling and made for great rides. I didn't get the watch out but some were at least 20-30 seconds, long enough I had time to think and look around. Getting really close on tacks now. I can make them off of foil and even coming around on foil and coming off at the end on some of them. Need more practice though as the shredders make it look too easy. They don't even use the wing they just come in high speed and foil through
Wind was offshore last 2 days so didn't get Brian shredding, but I did get and epic waterstart.
https://youtu.be/upoSsHR4f9A
33L, 1080cm2 foil, 3.5m wing less than 20kn and Brian is about 70kg.
I still have a ways to go. And yes he is starting toeside to add to it.
Had another amazing Norte day yesterday! My longest rides by far. Swell was 6-8' and rolling and made for great rides. I didn't get the watch out but some were at least 20-30 seconds, long enough I had time to think and look around. Getting really close on tacks now. I can make them off of foil and even coming around on foil and coming off at the end on some of them. Need more practice though as the shredders make it look too easy. They don't even use the wing they just come in high speed and foil through
Wind was offshore last 2 days so didn't get Brian shredding, but I did get and epic waterstart.
https://youtu.be/upoSsHR4f9A
33L, 1080cm2 foil, 3.5m wing less than 20kn and Brian is about 70kg.
I still have a ways to go. And yes he is starting toeside to add to it.
I'm at sea until the 13th but I hope to get in a bunch of days practice in December. I'm no longer too worried about moderate shore breaks, if anything the wing is less worrysome there than windfoil gear which was unexpected.
My nice heavy foil might actually be easier to manage than one which floats. Also attaching the wing leash to the front of my vest and board leash to the back makes everything easier to manage.
My nice heavy foil might actually be easier to manage than one which floats. Also attaching the wing leash to the front of my vest and board leash to the back makes everything easier to manage.
T-nuts & bolts
Finally got my board & foil, from two separate shops who actually had stock, but neither came with T-nuts to attach said foil to board!
Anyone know anywhere local to get those?
Anyone know anywhere local to get those?
- juandesooka
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probably not -- but let us know if you find somewhere!
Has to be online, seek out brass or stainless...they are distressingly expensive especially with shipping. Chinook sells them.
https://chinooksailing.com/products/sli ... -t-nut-8mm
Canadian source
https://www.boardsports.ca/chinook-slid ... t-8mm.html
https://www.windspirit.ca/shop/windsurf ... lt-slider/
These are cheap, arrive quick, but they will rust. Good for spares or in a pinch.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07F12HC4K/ref ... 70_TE_item
Here's new ones with a hold screw
https://www.mackiteboarding.com/stringf ... rack-nuts/
Find a better deal, please post it!
Has to be online, seek out brass or stainless...they are distressingly expensive especially with shipping. Chinook sells them.
https://chinooksailing.com/products/sli ... -t-nut-8mm
Canadian source
https://www.boardsports.ca/chinook-slid ... t-8mm.html
https://www.windspirit.ca/shop/windsurf ... lt-slider/
These are cheap, arrive quick, but they will rust. Good for spares or in a pinch.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07F12HC4K/ref ... 70_TE_item
Here's new ones with a hold screw
https://www.mackiteboarding.com/stringf ... rack-nuts/
Find a better deal, please post it!
- Mrnorthsouth
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Typically the bolts come with the foil. That being said,
Some T-nuts out there are made for mast tracks or long US boxes(ones that come with slingshot foils) will not slide into the more modern foil track boxes made futures(nuts being too wide)
I can send you the right ones for your Quatro Wing Drifter if you want.
I am getting more foil bolts and t-nuts in stock.
Some T-nuts out there are made for mast tracks or long US boxes(ones that come with slingshot foils) will not slide into the more modern foil track boxes made futures(nuts being too wide)
I can send you the right ones for your Quatro Wing Drifter if you want.
I am getting more foil bolts and t-nuts in stock.
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Just wondering from you wing guys about board size. Just ordered a new wing thought it looks pretty fun will start with sup and driftstopper fins and then to my windsurfer with foil. My question is will I outgrow a 140l fanatic sky wing after riding 130l windsurfer to start. Also will 140L get me out in lighter winds or is it better with something smaller and lighter in light winds say 95L . I have a large 2000cm foil as well as smaller ones. Weigh about 200lbs
- UnusuallyLargeRobin
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It's mostly foil size and wing size for your given weight coupled with pumping technique for the low end to get flying. It is nice to have board volume at = or greater than your weight to be able to schlog around or get to land if very light wind. I for example have to sometimes prone paddle out to the wind line or back in if wind drops on my 75 ltr board (I'm probably 90kg in full rubber!)
Me: 85kg(187lbs)
FoilBoards: Fanatic 5'0 SkyWing(75lt);
Wings:Duotone Unit 3.0,4.0,5.5m;
Foils:Axis HPS1050(1460cm2),PNG1150(1713cm2),HA1000(1310cm2); Rears 370,425p,Skinny365/55; Fuse: ultra, adv.crazy black; Mast:90cm 19mm Alu
FoilBoards: Fanatic 5'0 SkyWing(75lt);
Wings:Duotone Unit 3.0,4.0,5.5m;
Foils:Axis HPS1050(1460cm2),PNG1150(1713cm2),HA1000(1310cm2); Rears 370,425p,Skinny365/55; Fuse: ultra, adv.crazy black; Mast:90cm 19mm Alu
- UnusuallyLargeRobin
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Have just been reading that 2 more of the major wing makers Ozone and Ensis are coming out with windows in their next versions. Despite what contrarians are saying about extra weight, lack of shaping etc, seems like the realization of safety in crowded conditions and the ability to look without raising the wing prior to transitions/tricks is the overall benefit. So that leaves only F-One, Takoon, and some other small companies without windows.
Me: 85kg(187lbs)
FoilBoards: Fanatic 5'0 SkyWing(75lt);
Wings:Duotone Unit 3.0,4.0,5.5m;
Foils:Axis HPS1050(1460cm2),PNG1150(1713cm2),HA1000(1310cm2); Rears 370,425p,Skinny365/55; Fuse: ultra, adv.crazy black; Mast:90cm 19mm Alu
FoilBoards: Fanatic 5'0 SkyWing(75lt);
Wings:Duotone Unit 3.0,4.0,5.5m;
Foils:Axis HPS1050(1460cm2),PNG1150(1713cm2),HA1000(1310cm2); Rears 370,425p,Skinny365/55; Fuse: ultra, adv.crazy black; Mast:90cm 19mm Alu
- juandesooka
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windows...I tend to agree. I have only used wings with windows a few times, I found the windows are often not where I need them anyway, limited help. But they do help a little.
I am used to winging without many other riders around. When there's lots, and especially when there's kites and windsurfers, the risk of collision is much worse, as our trajectories are different. The wing blind spot is huge. Situational awareness is key....a shoulder check is a must before gybing (which is obvious in kiting, but have to get used to it for winging now).
I also had a close call with a boat at Billings Spit, did not see it coming up at speed, as it was directly downwind with my wing in the way.
Anyways, I think windows' positives are worth the negatives.
I am used to winging without many other riders around. When there's lots, and especially when there's kites and windsurfers, the risk of collision is much worse, as our trajectories are different. The wing blind spot is huge. Situational awareness is key....a shoulder check is a must before gybing (which is obvious in kiting, but have to get used to it for winging now).
I also had a close call with a boat at Billings Spit, did not see it coming up at speed, as it was directly downwind with my wing in the way.
Anyways, I think windows' positives are worth the negatives.